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	<title>Comments on: Why ASP.NET MVC is better than WebForms: Repeatability</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Kruger</title>
		<link>http://jonkruger.com/blog/2009/05/26/why-aspnet-mvc-is-better-than-webforms-repeatability/comment-page-1/#comment-5041</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Kruger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ulu,

Check out jQuery UI.  Telerik has an MVC grid now too.  I've used jqGrid quite a bit too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ulu,</p>
<p>Check out jQuery UI.  Telerik has an MVC grid now too.  I&#8217;ve used jqGrid quite a bit too.</p>
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		<title>By: ulu</title>
		<link>http://jonkruger.com/blog/2009/05/26/why-aspnet-mvc-is-better-than-webforms-repeatability/comment-page-1/#comment-5040</link>
		<dc:creator>ulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would object to one point (although I do love MVC): most 3rd party grids (I use telerik) already have the code necessary for handling button actions, AJAX calls etc. In fact, I don't have any codebehind for 90% of my controls and pages. This is until you want to modify the common behavior, of course. So, separating HTML and code is good, but you can't package them into a reusable component anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would object to one point (although I do love MVC): most 3rd party grids (I use telerik) already have the code necessary for handling button actions, AJAX calls etc. In fact, I don&#8217;t have any codebehind for 90% of my controls and pages. This is until you want to modify the common behavior, of course. So, separating HTML and code is good, but you can&#8217;t package them into a reusable component anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://jonkruger.com/blog/2009/05/26/why-aspnet-mvc-is-better-than-webforms-repeatability/comment-page-1/#comment-4906</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon,

Would it be possible to write a blog post about a simpler version of the JQueryGrid?

Interested in the loaddatafromurl part..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon,</p>
<p>Would it be possible to write a blog post about a simpler version of the JQueryGrid?</p>
<p>Interested in the loaddatafromurl part..</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Polerecky</title>
		<link>http://jonkruger.com/blog/2009/05/26/why-aspnet-mvc-is-better-than-webforms-repeatability/comment-page-1/#comment-3869</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Polerecky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAMN IT! .... looks good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAMN IT! &#8230;. looks good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Kruger</title>
		<link>http://jonkruger.com/blog/2009/05/26/why-aspnet-mvc-is-better-than-webforms-repeatability/comment-page-1/#comment-3867</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Kruger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric,

Sorry, Html.JQueryGrid is something in my current project, but it's not open source (right now, at least).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric,</p>
<p>Sorry, Html.JQueryGrid is something in my current project, but it&#8217;s not open source (right now, at least).</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Polerecky</title>
		<link>http://jonkruger.com/blog/2009/05/26/why-aspnet-mvc-is-better-than-webforms-repeatability/comment-page-1/#comment-3866</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Polerecky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

Is there an extention method for Html.JQueryGrid publicly available?


@Tim -

Yep; MVP would solve these problems also. The advantages a new MVC project gives over MVP is that the convention is baked in, required even. If there was a new "MVP Project" in visual studio that would go a long way in creating clean code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Is there an extention method for Html.JQueryGrid publicly available?</p>
<p>@Tim -</p>
<p>Yep; MVP would solve these problems also. The advantages a new MVC project gives over MVP is that the convention is baked in, required even. If there was a new &#8220;MVP Project&#8221; in visual studio that would go a long way in creating clean code.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://jonkruger.com/blog/2009/05/26/why-aspnet-mvc-is-better-than-webforms-repeatability/comment-page-1/#comment-3815</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 13:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

I love to bag on web forms as much as the next guy, but you can thin down the code behind by moving to the MVP pattern. In essence, you end up building up your page model in a testable class in the presentation layer and then binding it to the Presenter, which is the code behind. It's not perfect, there's still a lot of UI logic contained in the code behind that is extremely difficult to test. It will lead to some more repeatability, though. As good as what I think is in MVC? No, but possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>I love to bag on web forms as much as the next guy, but you can thin down the code behind by moving to the MVP pattern. In essence, you end up building up your page model in a testable class in the presentation layer and then binding it to the Presenter, which is the code behind. It&#8217;s not perfect, there&#8217;s still a lot of UI logic contained in the code behind that is extremely difficult to test. It will lead to some more repeatability, though. As good as what I think is in MVC? No, but possible.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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